Song Ratings

[bilbo]

I have also examined the popm tag for Media Monkey and Music Bee and just as in Winamp, a rating of 3 equates to 128. I checked on Wikipedia and found this under ID3:


However, there is a "Popularimeter" frame in the ID3v2 specification meant for this purpose. The frame is called POPM and Windows Explorer, Windows Media Player, Winamp, foobar2000, media monkey and other software all map roughly the same ranges of 0–255 to a 0–5 stars value for display.

The following list details how Windows Explorer reads and writes the POPM frame:

224-255 = 5 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 255
160-223 = 4 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 196
096-159 = 3 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 128
032-095 = 2 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 64
001-031 = 1 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 1


I will check on other ratings.

[GoneMAD]

May 29, 2014 0:04:52 GMT -5 bilbo said:

I have also examined the popm tag for Media Monkey and Music Bee and just as in Winamp, a rating of 3 equates to 128. I checked on Wikipedia and found this under ID3:


However, there is a "Popularimeter" frame in the ID3v2 specification meant for this purpose. The frame is called POPM and Windows Explorer, Windows Media Player, Winamp, foobar2000, media monkey and other software all map roughly the same ranges of 0–255 to a 0–5 stars value for display.

The following list details how Windows Explorer reads and writes the POPM frame:

224-255 = 5 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 255
160-223 = 4 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 196
096-159 = 3 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 128
032-095 = 2 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 64
001-031 = 1 stars when READ with Windows Explorer, writes 1


I will check on other ratings.

that scaling makes absolutely no sense. the high and low ends are ranges of 30-31 yet the middle ones are 63? 255 is divisible by 5. Sounds like someone was smoking crack when they set that up

edit: im curious if this is something that was standardized more recently.. i wrote the tag reading code like 2 years ago and at the time i had to scour the forums of individual players to determine how they wrote the ratings. Im fairly certain i tested all star ratings with windows media player too

anyway i can make those adjustments fairly easily

[bilbo]

Well, you thought that was crazy, get ready for more. I rated songs from 0 to 5, in 1/2 star increments, and than examined the popm tag. Here are the results:

Rating _ MMonkey  _ MusicBee
0 _             0         _ No POPM
.5          _ 13               13
1                1                1
1.5           54              54
2              64              64
2.5         118            118
3            128            128
3.5         186            186
4            196            196
4.5         242            242
5            255            255

Yes, you are reading correctly. The rating of 1 is a "1". I initially tested with metamp3, but because of the 1 rating, I checked again with mp3tag. The results were the same.

Media Monkey also has a rating "Unknown" which removes the popm tag. This is what MusicBee did with rating "0".

[GoneMAD]

at least the other numbers are consistent between the 2.

I think i understand the 1 being 1.... i think its for compatibility reasons. There were some players that used to just tag 1-5 in the POPM tag (which GMMP accounts for).. so basically <=5 you take the number at face value.

[skipsy3]

Hi,

I've been trying to figure out how to display the song rating in the track list, so that you don't have to delve into the 'track details' menu first, but it doesn't seem to be possible. Can this be done, or if not, could this option be included in the next update?

I have a library of 20,000 or more different tracks and the only way I can ever remember which ones I like is to give them all a star rating. But it's a total pain in the neck to have to long-press on every track name to find out what that rating is; it would be so much quicker to have the information on display (or at least the option to do so) Surely it can't be difficult to show ratings alongside the track name?

Thanks.

[GoneMAD]

May 31, 2014 18:12:39 GMT -5 skipsy3 said:

Hi,

I've been trying to figure out how to display the song rating in the track list, so that you don't have to delve into the 'track details' menu first, but it doesn't seem to be possible. Can this be done, or if not, could this option be included in the next update?

I have a library of 20,000 or more different tracks and the only way I can ever remember which ones I like is to give them all a star rating. But it's a total pain in the neck to have to long-press on every track name to find out what that rating is; it would be so much quicker to have the information on display (or at least the option to do so) Surely it can't be difficult to show ratings alongside the track name?

Thanks.

its not possible but i plan to make all the list views customizable in GMMP 2.0

[bilbo]

Are you planing to make any modification to import ratings properly from the tags of the most used taggers?

[GoneMAD]

Jun 11, 2014 18:55:30 GMT -5 bilbo said:

Are you planing to make any modification to import ratings properly from the tags of the most used taggers?

yes

trello.com/c/7yWdugVZ

[Avak]

Is it possible to use the ID3 tags for song ratings in GMMP instead of the separate XML database? My ratings are getting lost in syncing/batch editing processes and I use the same music database on various android devices via samba mounting. Is an alternative to just sync that xml file across devices?

Thanks for the amazing software!

[GoneMAD]

eventually. my original attempts at having GMMP save ratings into tags presented some issues that i just didnt have the time to deal with so it was indefinitely pushed back

[baz]

Is there a way to hide song rating on the Now Playing ?

[GoneMAD]

Oct 25, 2014 0:33:09 GMT -5 baz said:

Is there a way to hide song rating on the Now Playing ?

yeah... now playing is completely customizable.. prefs -> now playing - customize playing info

[baz]

Oct 25, 2014 0:34:15 GMT -5 GoneMAD said:

Oct 25, 2014 0:33:09 GMT -5 baz said:

Is there a way to hide song rating on the Now Playing ?

yeah... now playing is completely customizable.. prefs -> now playing - customize playing info

Thanks, this is an awesome player. Keep up with great updates.

[valentino]

Hi
thanks for the great player!
I'm an happy customer, but have an issue with the RATING tag I saved in Foobar/mp3tag: they're ignored by the player.
Everything's ok with the main tags.

I'm not sure I understand how tagging works, but for sure foobar does not use the POPM frame of mediamonkey. It uses TXXX instead. Right?
Is there any way that GMMP could read foobar tags? OR do you know of any tool which I could use to translate the tags from foobar into GMMP "language"?
many thanks

BTW, I support the request for adding custom tags to the library =)

[GoneMAD]

Nov 29, 2014 13:12:05 GMT -5 valentino said:

Hi
thanks for the great player!
I'm an happy customer, but have an issue with the RATING tag I saved in Foobar/mp3tag: they're ignored by the player.
Everything's ok with the main tags.

I'm not sure I understand how tagging works, but for sure foobar does not use the POPM frame of mediamonkey. It uses TXXX instead. Right?
Is there any way that GMMP could read foobar tags? OR do you know of any tool which I could use to translate the tags from foobar into GMMP "language"?
many thanks

BTW, I support the request for adding custom tags to the library =)

mp3s should always use the official tag (POPM) and not TXXX TXXX are completely user defined so its hard to read all the possibilities (for both the tag name and the rating system used). POPM is at least a standard so you know its between 0-255.. but for TXXX is it 0-10, 0-100, 0-5, etc?

i'll add it to the request list but i still recommend using the official tags