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Post by MotleyGord on Jan 30, 2022 19:27:18 GMT -5
Alternative suggestion for a work-around, given what you are trying to do. Rather than delete the entire database, try using a file explorer and move the entire offending album out of the music folder. You can then delete that album from GoneMAD without deleting the entire library. After this you can move those same files back to your music folder, and run a new scan. No other items would have been deleted from your queue, and the rescan should add the “new” folder back as a “new” and hopefully complete album.
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 30, 2022 19:55:12 GMT -5
there is not
if i could reproduce your issue i'd totally try to help more but i simply cant recreate the issue you are having
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 30, 2022 19:58:38 GMT -5
Alternative suggestion for a work-around, given what you are trying to do. Rather than delete the entire database, try using a file explorer and move the entire offending album out of the music folder. You can then delete that album from GoneMAD without deleting the entire library. After this you can move those same files back to your music folder, and run a new scan. No other items would have been deleted from your queue, and the rescan should add the “new” folder back as a “new” and hopefully complete album. Thanks, that might indeed be worth a try. Would that also retain the queue positions of the deleted and rescanned album?
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 30, 2022 19:59:22 GMT -5
Alternative suggestion for a work-around, given what you are trying to do. Rather than delete the entire database, try using a file explorer and move the entire offending album out of the music folder. You can then delete that album from GoneMAD without deleting the entire library. After this you can move those same files back to your music folder, and run a new scan. No other items would have been deleted from your queue, and the rescan should add the “new” folder back as a “new” and hopefully complete album. Thanks, that might indeed be worth a try. Would that also retain the queue positions of the deleted and rescanned album? if you added an album to the queue and then deleted it.. it will be get removed from the queue
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 30, 2022 20:07:00 GMT -5
there is not if i could reproduce your issue i'd totally try to help more but i simply cant recreate the issue you are having I understand and I don't like to keep complaining. I appreciate your comments. What I would point out is that MotleyGord also mentioned that he'd encountered the issue, so it doesn't seem as though it's just me. Thanks for taking the time to respond. 🙂
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 30, 2022 20:12:10 GMT -5
anyone feel free to send me specific files that i can use to recreate the issue.. because i've done all i've can from my end trying to recreate it. i cannot fix issues i cannot reproduce
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Post by MotleyGord on Jan 31, 2022 10:24:49 GMT -5
"If the album files are in different folders or you adding extra files to an existing album: Make sure Advanced Scanner Settings - MultiFolder Albums is turned on Make sure not only the albumartist and album tags are identical, also make sure the year tag is identical. All 3 are used by the scanner to group albums in multiple folders." @si6776 After I enabled the Settings>Scanner>Multi-Folder Albums check box, I am able to confirm that I can now add new files to an album folder, and GoneMAD did correctly add these to my library. I tried with both an mp3 file as well as an lossless ALAC m4a file. So in my case this is resolved by enabling this one option setting.
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 31, 2022 12:10:08 GMT -5
"If the album files are in different folders or you adding extra files to an existing album: Make sure Advanced Scanner Settings - MultiFolder Albums is turned on Make sure not only the albumartist and album tags are identical, also make sure the year tag is identical. All 3 are used by the scanner to group albums in multiple folders." @si6776 After I enabled the Settings>Scanner>Multi-Folder Albums check box, I am able to confirm that I can now add new files to an album folder, and GoneMAD did correctly add these to my library. I tried with both an mp3 file as well as an lossless ALAC m4a file. So in my case this is resolved by enabling this one option setting. The Settings>Scanner>Multi-Folder Albums check box has always been ticked for me. I have also set the Ignore Year setting to Always, and ticked and unticked the Ignore AlbumArtist tag box, neither of which seems to make any difference. Some of the tracks in this album (not a multi-folder album - all tracks are in the same folder) had different years, so I removed that tag for all tracks. Should I try putting a year and making them all the same year? But with the Year set to Ignore Always, surely this shouldn't make a difference?
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 31, 2022 12:11:28 GMT -5
anyone feel free to send me specific files that i can use to recreate the issue.. because i've done all i've can from my end trying to recreate it. i cannot fix issues i cannot reproduce Which specific files are you referring to? I'm happy to send anything which might help, but the folder in question has over 1000 tracks, so not really practical to send that.
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Post by MotleyGord on Jan 31, 2022 12:23:06 GMT -5
Some of the tracks in this album (not a multi-folder album - all tracks are in the same folder) had different years, so I removed that tag for all tracks. Should I try putting a year and making them all the same year? But with the Year set to Ignore Always, surely this shouldn't make a difference? I think this was addressed earlier in the thread by @gonemad that Album, AlbumArtist, and Year (all 3) had to match to be considered to be the same Album in the app, especially when adding tracks after the initial scan. So I assume the answer is yes to putting a matching year back in for all tracks to have this work for you. In my examples that worked, these three tags were complete and the same for each test I tried.
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 31, 2022 13:00:38 GMT -5
anyone feel free to send me specific files that i can use to recreate the issue.. because i've done all i've can from my end trying to recreate it. i cannot fix issues i cannot reproduce Which specific files are you referring to? I'm happy to send anything which might help, but the folder in question has over 1000 tracks, so not really practical to send that. any files i can use to potentially recreate the issue on my end
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 31, 2022 13:08:46 GMT -5
Some of the tracks in this album (not a multi-folder album - all tracks are in the same folder) had different years, so I removed that tag for all tracks. Should I try putting a year and making them all the same year? But with the Year set to Ignore Always, surely this shouldn't make a difference? i explained this before.. any files scanned in, do not factor in files scanned in from a previous scan, so its treated as a different folder Ignore Year only applies to grouping new files in a single scan, in the same folder. Multi-folder album is also simply the name of the setting that will force a database lookup to see if the album already exists when grouping. With it off, a new album is created for every folder it finds music in (so adding a file to an existing folder thats already scanned in will also generate a new album) Another thing to note is the AlbumArtist tag must be set, simply looking in gmmp's tag editor is not enough to see if the tag is there since the UI's will use the Artist if the AlbumArtist tag is not present. Something like mp3tag should be used to verify tags
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 31, 2022 13:33:11 GMT -5
Which specific files are you referring to? I'm happy to send anything which might help, but the folder in question has over 1000 tracks, so not really practical to send that. any files i can use to potentially recreate the issue on my end Yeah, sorry, but do you mean music files or something else? i explained this before.. any files scanned in, do not factor in files scanned in from a previous scan, so its treated as a different folder Ignore Year only applies to grouping new files in a single scan, in the same folder. Multi-folder album is also simply the name of the setting that will force a database lookup to see if the album already exists when grouping. With it off, a new album is created for every folder it finds music in (so adding a file to an existing folder thats already scanned in will also generate a new album) Another thing to note is the AlbumArtist tag must be set, simply looking in gmmp's tag editor is not enough to see if the tag is there since the UI's will use the Artist if the AlbumArtist tag is not present. Something like mp3tag should be used to verify tags All of the tracks have 'Various' as the AlbumArtist. This has been set with mp3tag. If another album with a different title also had 'Various' as the AlbumArtist, might that trip things up? That said, I've never had a track merge with the wrong album. I will try entering the same year for all the tracks, as that's one thing I've yet to try.
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Post by GoneMAD on Jan 31, 2022 13:49:22 GMT -5
"Yeah, sorry, but do you mean music files or something else?"
yea. I manually set tags of files the way you mentioned earlier and could not reproduce the issue.. So i'd need a small subset of files from you that generate the split album for you. Id test by putting all but one file in a folder, scan, then add the last file and scan.
"All of the tracks have 'Various' as the AlbumArtist. This has been set with mp3tag. If another album with a different title also had 'Various' as the AlbumArtist, might that trip things up? That said, I've never had a track merge with the wrong album."
Using Various is fine.
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Post by Si6776 on Jan 31, 2022 16:56:01 GMT -5
OK... So, I've changed all my tracks to include the Year tag, and so far, everything seems to be working. I've re-imported several tracks into the Music Mix album folder and they appear to be grouped with the album correctly.
Thanks for all the responses and help. Hopefully this is now sorted.
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