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Post by Tmel on Nov 20, 2016 9:45:00 GMT -5
OK so I'm not sure if this is me making a basic mistake but I find that a lot of my albums won't group properly as just one single album, particularly with compilation albums. For instance, I have a James Bond compilation album with all the themes and in my desktop music manager (Music Bee) it groups it as just one album. However, when it's synced to my phone the album appears as about 6 different albums, randomly grouping some of the songs into the six different albums. It does a similar thing with many of my other compilations.
At first I thought it might be due to the differing release years assigned to different songs but then I have other compilations where it's all grouped under the same year and the same thing happens. I made sure these albums all have "Various Artists" as the listed album artist.
On my desktop music player and other music players on my phone, they are grouped under a single album but GMMP seems to split these albums up which is difficult when I want to listen to the whole album. Any advice?
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Post by GoneMAD on Nov 20, 2016 19:43:32 GMT -5
gmmp uses the tags to group... so make sure your tags are correct
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Post by jax on Mar 9, 2017 12:09:47 GMT -5
OK so I'm not sure if this is me making a basic mistake but I find that a lot of my albums won't group properly as just one single album, particularly with compilation albums. For instance, I have a James Bond compilation album with all the themes and in my desktop music manager (Music Bee) it groups it as just one album. However, when it's synced to my phone the album appears as about 6 different albums, randomly grouping some of the songs into the six different albums. It does a similar thing with many of my other compilations. At first I thought it might be due to the differing release years assigned to different songs but then I have other compilations where it's all grouped under the same year and the same thing happens. I made sure these albums all have "Various Artists" as the listed album artist. On my desktop music player and other music players on my phone, they are grouped under a single album but GMMP seems to split these albums up which is difficult when I want to listen to the whole album. Any advice? I have seen the same. Most recently I had a compilation album where different tracks had a different Year in the tag, the GMMP split the single compilation into different albums. I changed the Year tag so they were all the same (just on the phone) and then GMMP showed it as a single album. Also, on my desktop (I just JRiver Media Center and Roon) i leave the album artist for compilations empty and the software still treats it as a single album (the desktop software flag these as "Multiple Artist" albums without writing to the Album Artist tag), but sometimes these albums will get split into multiple albums on GMMP. It's not until I go and tag them as Various Artists that GMMP groups them properly, unless as I noted above the years don't match. It would be nice if we could select what criteria is used to determine what is and isn't an album. |
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Post by GoneMAD on Mar 9, 2017 12:18:56 GMT -5
if your compilation is in the same folder it ignores the year by default.. unless the setting was changed
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Post by jax on Mar 9, 2017 12:43:40 GMT -5
if your compilation is in the same folder it ignores the year by default.. unless the setting was changed All of the files are definitely in the same folder. What setting is it that might have been changed? |
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Post by GoneMAD on Mar 9, 2017 14:51:40 GMT -5
Ignore Year under the scanner settings
Also is it in isolation in a folder? Like i know some people just throw all their files into a single folder, which is strongly discouraged
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Post by GoneMAD on Mar 9, 2017 14:53:16 GMT -5
oh.. also if part of your album was on your device and a scan happened.. then the 2nd half of the album was put on the device causing another scan.. that would most likely split it up. Not a common case but i've seen it happen
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Post by jax on Mar 9, 2017 18:12:15 GMT -5
Ignore Year under the scanner settings Also is it in isolation in a folder? Like i know some people just throw all their files into a single folder, which is strongly discouraged i use the artist\album\ folder structure. so everything was neat and orderly. I will check the scanner setting. Thanks! |
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Post by jax on Mar 10, 2017 8:13:47 GMT -5
Ignore Year under the scanner settings Also is it in isolation in a folder? Like i know some people just throw all their files into a single folder, which is strongly discouraged i use the artist\album\ folder structure. so everything was neat and orderly. I will check the scanner setting. Thanks! Just this morning I copied three new albums (not compilations) on my phone and GMMP split all three into multiple albums. All tags are correct and each album is in it's own folder. Is there a way to clean this up after the fact? I know I can delete the database and rescan, but then I loose the date added data and can't sort the way I'd like. |
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Post by GoneMAD on Mar 13, 2017 9:48:51 GMT -5
send one of the albums that gets split to gonemadsoftware@gmail.com
editing the tags will do a merge of 2 albums assuming there are no other matches in the database
I also should point out that the scanner uses the album artist tag over the artist tag if it was there, and it is case sensitive (different capitalizations will not get grouped together.. which is why there is that format tag option in the scanner) . Despite thinking the tags are correct, I would imagine they are not. Every case i've gotten so far of split albums has come down to mismatching tags. Tools like itunes do not always show what is truly in the tag. I usually use something like mp3tag on the pc to analyze what the actual tag contents are
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Post by jax on Mar 13, 2017 16:04:55 GMT -5
send one of the albums that gets split to gonemadsoftware@gmail.com editing the tags will do a merge of 2 albums assuming there are no other matches in the database I also should point out that the scanner uses the album artist tag over the artist tag if it was there, and it is case sensitive (different capitalizations will not get grouped together.. which is why there is that format tag option in the scanner) . Despite thinking the tags are correct, I would imagine they are not. Every case i've gotten so far of split albums has come down to mismatching tags. Tools like itunes do not always show what is truly in the tag. I usually use something like mp3tag on the pc to analyze what the actual tag contents are All of my albums are flac, so sending via email won't work. I did send you a link to where I have shared them on google drive. The files and tags are unmodified from the import into GMMP. I use Jriver Media Center as my media management tool and typically also use it for editing tags. I also use mp3tag from time to time for doing exports for other functions- I checked these files with mp3tag and didn't see a reason for album splits. These digital files are not CD rips but typically obtained from Bandcamp, 7digital, HDTracks or direct from the artist label. |
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Post by GoneMAD on Mar 13, 2017 16:32:51 GMT -5
do you have the "multi-folder albums" option enabled in the scanner settings? If not, enable that (pretty sure its on by default tho).
I see no reason why these should get split into multiple albums (and they dont for me). What i am guessing is happening assuming you have that setting off mentioned above is since these are large files, the android media scanner is triggering multiple times while you transfer the files over (usually it doesnt trigger until everything is transfered over.. but since the transfers might take a bit it is probably triggering multiple scans. With multi folder albums off, gmmp will take any new files in the same folder and create an album for it. In this case i think its going like this
2 files transfer
scan
new album created with 2 songs
next few files transfer
scan
new album created with the other songs
The multi folder setting will check the database first for a matching album.
In the auto scan settings you can also disable the auto scans and just manually trigger one after you have all the new music transfered over
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Post by jax on Mar 13, 2017 17:17:22 GMT -5
ok thanks for the tip. i will give these settings a try
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Post by sirius on Apr 25, 2018 12:48:29 GMT -5
Can I add to this? Though I have the Scanner setting "Ignore Year" set to "Always" gmmp still separates tracks all with the identical "Album" and "Album Artist" tags into to separate albums where the track "Year" tag is different and the tracks are in separate folders. Other than giving all tracks the same year tag or putting them in the same folder is there any way around this so that all tracks are in the one album?
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Post by GoneMAD on Apr 25, 2018 13:42:17 GMT -5
they need to be in the same folder. Ignore year only applies to files within the same folder.
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